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February 20, 2010

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sandra

One can blame the scoring system, one can blame the judges, i blame Plushenko who is obviously the better athlete, however needs to learn to be better not by a an inch, not by a mile, but by light years. If the system is against you the only way to win is to be so much better than everybody else that even the blind (judges) can't ingore the superiority. Either this or change the system, whichever comes first...

R.O.N.

Why doesn't Plushenko stand in the middle of the rink and just hit quad after quad, if he loves them so much?

Alsu

Plushenko was obviously the best in these games. He more difficult programm and everyone could see that, he has more plastic and artistic skills, his performance was ten times better than Evan's. What;s more Evan's built is not for figure skating, and it is not for dancing at all.

D.W.

Plushenko did his quad and then "floated" the rest of his program. This was not a Quad Jump" but a skating program. He did nothing the last minute or so. After his quad, it was like, "ok, give me my gold medal". I found that highly irritating. He looked winded the last part of his program, too. I don't think he could have done a triple if his life depended upon it. Does he smoke or was he just not in top form?

Lee

Mishin and Plushy are crybabies and always have been. The NYT piece on the success of the quad in this new system is very revealing. And for longevity of the skaters - why don't we ask Yagudin and Goebel how their lower extremities are doing these days? Both have been reported to be in considerable pain from the pounding that does to the body.

Elizabeth Ely

I keep thinking if all those 'artistic' moves, the ones that Plushenko and Stojko say are bringing down the technical focus of the sport, are so easy and not real 'sport,' then why didn't they just throw them in themselves?

No big deal to do according to them, so why not do them when Plushenko knows the judging system now rewards these moves?

Same goes for doing difficult jumps past the half way point as you mentioned above. Obviously these things take a conditioning or technical ability that is not Plushenko's forte. But I fail to see how these artistic moves are any less athletic.

Just look at how few can do the really complicated footwork for example, and how many more skaters fall now attempting difficult step sequences. The sport is advancing right there.

More to say but don't want to clog up the comments here. I vented more earlier on my blog at http://elizabethely.com so I'll stop here now. Here's to continuing to enjoy this great sport and community of fans!

jumping clapping man

Isn't it interesting that when Shizuka Arakawa won the gold in Torino, she wasn't lambasted for digressing the sport (for landing fewer triples than any female winner for decades)!

Flutz

Plushenko is a poor sport, plain and simple. He's tarnished his 2006 gold medal by his childish behavior.

Jan Dalquist

Plushenko made the comment that if the judging had been based on the 6. scoring he would have won. No! Lycacek skating difficult moves throughout he program. Plushenko quit after the first half--he put all his difficult moves within the first 2 minutes. Lycacek placed some of his more difficult moves during the last 2 minutes. And Plushenko's foot work looked as though he was making it up during the program. Remember how Irina Slutkaya was upset when Sarah Hughes won in 2002? Russian athletes need to learn to lose with grace.

Jan Dalquist

I want to add that I believe the photo of Lycacek dressed and posed as a female is disgusting. Remember Battle of the Blades? And how one hocky pro commented that he equated learning to figure skate and participating in the competition up with winning the Stanley cup? I challenge those who believe figure skating is a "feminine" or "artistic" endeavor to try skating all out for 4 and 1/2 minutes--and jump and spin (don't deny those--they take as much energy as a jump does) during that time. Think in terms of running a 4 minutes mile.

Susan Chun

@Jan: Thanks for your comments. As you can clearly see from this post, I don't agree with Plushenko's comments regarding men's skating and feel that Evan has been extraordinarily dignified in his responses (he is much bigger than Evgeny, after all, and could make a size wisecrack). The photo illustration was simply a way of visualizing/parodying in a somewhat dramatic fashion what Evgeny was saying and thinking, as evidenced by the thought balloon. Kind of like editorial cartoons or Economist covers.

Carlos

Plushenko did some technical edge errors in some jumps, and poor transmissions, and Lyzacek did not skate a clean program at all there where a lot of woobling and miss transmissions going on, plus no interpretation at all, however what shocked me the most was the politics and the way this scoring method can easily cover up predecisions of the jury, the japanese made a hell of a good program even with the first fall, Stefan was just not in the house at all which was understandable but scoring Weir at 6 was the robbery of the night so much that all the crowd in the dome was at fury, some deducted transitions but no falls and a clean interpretation, yet the one's on top of him had falls and weaker choreography.

mag

Americans can't admit that it is a robbery, of course. It is very simple, you are a man and a champion when you do the quad, anything else is just like the woman.

Reviewer

Just because one man can do a quad as a fluke one time does not make him a figure skating god! There is so much more to that sport!

quads

I think the quad was good, but he did not do well on his other areas like his technique. You cannot just keep doing the same move or you will be classified as boring... he has to try other stuff too!

ghds

want to add that I believe the photo of Lycacek dressed and posed as a female is disgusting. Remember Battle of the Blades? And how one hocky pro commented that he equated learning to figure skate and participating in the competition up with winning the Stanley cu

Ronnie

You know nothing about figure skating. Evan CAN'T jump quad. He just aren't able to do the most difficult and important, and progressive thing in male skating and he's Olympic champion. Haha. Plushenko is The Legend. People will remember him as The Greatest Male Skater of his generation. Evan's just a lucky boy who can't do a thing, but everybody loves him, because he's nice, and modest, and American. He's MEDIOCRE. He won the title, but he didn't won respect. If he's happy with his undeserved medal, well good for him.

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